Innovation

Go behind the scenes with Dr. Shabazz’s Second Draft Project interview shoot

We recorded our second interview in the series with the iconic author, social activist and third daughter of Malcolm X and Dr. Betty Shabazz.

The USC Charlotta Bass Journalism & Justice Lab has collaborated with the USC Digital Repository for a second installment of The Second Draft Project.

In early October, we recorded our second interview in the series with Dr. Ilyasah Shabazz, an author, community organizer, social activist and the third daughter of civil rights icon Malcolm X. The Charlotta Bass Lab’s founding director, Dr. Allissa V. Richardson, interviewed Dr. Shabazz at The Malcolm X & Dr. Betty Shabazz Memorial and Educational Center in New York. The interview site marks the location of the former Audubon Ballroom, where Dr. Shabazz’s father notably drew his final breaths. 

Dr. Ilyasah Shabazz (left) shares with Dr. Richardson how her mother, Dr. Betty Shabazz, meticulously designed every detail of the ornate mural in the Shabazz Center. The Center, formerly the Audubon Ballroom, is the site where her father was assassinated in 1965.

The Second Draft Project highlights the voices of Black Americans who are connected to pivotal moments in our nation’s fight for social justice, offering them a chance to illuminate history’s often skewed record. This project employs voice-to-text and machine learning technology to produce an “interactive interview” that allows users to engage with the subject’s pre-recorded testimony as if they were participating in a two-way conversation. 

Students from Dr. Richardson and Professor Jameela Hammond’s Second Draft Project course were invited to join the New York interview via Zoom. The students, who spent their semester conducting research and producing a podcast related to the project, contributed to roughly 250 interview questions for Dr. Shabazz.

For more than five hours, Dr. Shabazz recalled Malcolm X’s message and mission. She was just two years old at the time of her father’s death at the age of 39. Dr. Shabazz also addressed how his legacy has been shaped and reshaped by historical accounts and traditional media narratives. 

Catherine Gao of the Digital Repository prepares Dr. Shabazz for her interview in New York. Students in Dr. Richardson’s Second Draft Project class standby on Zoom to participate remotely from Los Angeles.
Dr. Shabazz waves hello to Dr. Richardson’s USC Annenberg students. The class will get to meet Dr. Shabazz in person when she visits Los Angeles for Charlotta Bass Day 2024.

In addition, Dr. Shabazz shared reflections on the legacy of her mother, Dr. Betty Shabazz, whose social justice advocacy persisted well beyond the tragic assassination of her husband on February 21, 1965. The USC Charlotta Bass Lab looks forward to welcoming Dr. Ilyasah Shabazz to campus on February 13, 2024, when she will premiere her interview at an event in honor of Charlotta Bass Day

About the Author

Rafiq Taylor

Public Relations Associate

Rafiq Taylor is the Public Relations Associate for the Charlotta Bass Journalism & Justice Lab, where he leads guest relations and media outreach efforts to amplify the Lab’s mission.

View profile